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Groups: New England Tar Sands Pipeline Plotted 'Behind Closed Doors'

Common Dreams -- A new analysis released today by national and regional environmental groups shows that US oil giant Exxon Mobile and Canada's Suncor hold a majority stake in a pipeline system that local residents along its route fear could soon be used to transport tar sands from western Canada to the New England coast.

The central concern of the report (pdf) surrounds a 2008 proposal by Canadian oil giant Enbridge to reverse the flow of existing east-to-west oil pipelines that would allow transport of tar sands oil—categorized by many as the "dirtiest oil in the world"—from Alberta to the deepwater harbor of Portland, Maine.

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Submitted Oct 20, 2012 By: NOTSOGRN

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melvindale Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,438 Points:351,230 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 7:12:02 PM Ignore melvindale Report Abuse Oil companies suck!
EconomiserAZ All-Star Author Tucson Posts:750 Points:144,415 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 12:38:28 PM Ignore EconomiserAZ Report Abuse More propaganda from the Enviroloonies!
NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,055 Points:1,508,620 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 12:25:49 AM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse . . As you can see the greenies are watching & waiting...the source says "We share our readers’ progressive values of social justice, human rights"... . It's good to see a work around Mr.0s blocking of the XK pipeline... .
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,370 Points:876,065 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 10:16:12 PM Ignore listerone Report Abuse More jobs...bring it on!
TelsaOR Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,561 Points:732,890 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 7:43:18 PM Ignore TelsaOR Report Abuse "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe." Steven Chu, Obama's energy secretary.
Fitwit Champion Author Stockton Posts:6,382 Points:1,352,705 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 7:25:37 PM Ignore Fitwit Report Abuse No comment on this one either.
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,193 Points:514,850 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 7:10:38 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse Sounds like a lot of propaganda.
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,098 Points:820,470 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 7:04:43 PM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse They used to hang innocent people as witches in New England too. I see that nothing has changed there.
toadNY Champion Author Albany Posts:7,027 Points:1,510,225 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:52:11 PM Ignore toadNY Report Abuse You said it TBRR!
farn1958 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:886 Points:183,385 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:51:28 PM Ignore farn1958 Report Abuse Once again someone should tell Canada to go pound oil sand.
Wizrd03 Champion Author Illinois Posts:8,137 Points:1,629,410 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:47:06 PM Ignore Wizrd03 Report Abuse The more I hear about Enbridge's tar sands, the less I like it.
IUVidiot Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,575 Points:706,410 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:46:12 PM Ignore IUVidiot Report Abuse time will tell
CC55 Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,307 Points:1,395,675 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:45:56 PM Ignore CC55 Report Abuse DEEP Water Port, not for this country it will go to China as planed.
dylan126 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,415 Points:592,095 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:44:38 PM Ignore dylan126 Report Abuse whatever
REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:10,420 Points:2,004,320 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:44:20 PM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse The "analysis" is a "trial balloon" filled with nothing.
dave1745 Champion Author Gary Posts:1,262 Points:735,500 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:43:32 PM Ignore dave1745 Report Abuse nifty
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,098 Points:820,470 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:42:58 PM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse Big deal! This is just more propaganda from a left wing website.
AKmailman Champion Author Alaska Posts:5,618 Points:1,554,640 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:38:51 PM Ignore AKmailman Report Abuse NIMBY syndrome
dudleydolittle Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,415 Points:588,270 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:37:05 PM Ignore dudleydolittle Report Abuse most likely
Kato51 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:7,250 Points:2,161,840 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:35:46 PM Ignore Kato51 Report Abuse They probably got a handout from Boma also.
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geoutpb Champion Author Midland Odessa Posts:4,608 Points:1,063,285 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:27:47 PM Ignore geoutpb Report Abuse Go for it Exxon, you can not have enough pipelines.
V8power Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,796 Points:1,375,995 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:25:03 PM Ignore V8power Report Abuse Oh no..lower energy prices. Must stop at all costs!
TBRR Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,662 Points:598,170 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:23:53 PM Ignore TBRR Report Abuse here go the greenies again to halt progress and head back to the whale oil lamps and horse and buggies. then they will complain about all the horse poop on the roads. NIMBY all over again. willling to bet they are also the biggest screamers about the high price of gas for their SUVs. UNITED WE STAND
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Rancher23 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,178 Points:656,420 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:19:38 PM Ignore Rancher23 Report Abuse Whatever!!!!!
ESCORT6768 Champion Author Iowa Posts:1,067 Points:610,065 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:18:59 PM Ignore ESCORT6768 Report Abuse I trust the oil companies more then I trust these environmental groups.
briinnc Champion Author North Carolina Posts:2,705 Points:834,820 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:16:41 PM Ignore briinnc Report Abuse Not in my back yard (but make sure I get lots of cheap gas, please).
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Sapper08 Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,049 Points:317,275 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:14:12 PM Ignore Sapper08 Report Abuse Agree. Keep your dirty oil Canada
bobzilla11 Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,191 Points:492,450 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:12:39 PM Ignore bobzilla11 Report Abuse keep it in canada
GordoM All-Star Author Detroit Posts:996 Points:991,005 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:11:02 PM Ignore GordoM Report Abuse Pipelines are the safest way to transport oil. Without a pipe this oil is going to move by rail and truck. Very ineffient and risky.
anascom Champion Author Hamilton Posts:1,593 Points:553,115 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:10:06 PM Ignore anascom Report Abuse @BMWer "It's OIL sands...not tar sands!" >> they call it tar sands or technically, bituminous sands, as the major substance is the tar. it's considered to be one of the heavy crude oil types!
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Titan_62 Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,448 Points:325,505 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:09:35 PM Ignore Titan_62 Report Abuse k
Z06KY Champion Author Louisville Posts:5,129 Points:902,790 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:09:23 PM Ignore Z06KY Report Abuse Good Idea and let the people saying they are against the keystone pipeline cry when we no longer want it. They just want more money or crazy greenies. GREED GREED GREED just like their leader Obama!
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CPGas1815 Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,027 Points:1,099,605 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:06:45 PM Ignore CPGas1815 Report Abuse As I have commented in the past the Canadian tar sands is poisoning the environment.
TopGunn Champion Author Baltimore Posts:9,171 Points:2,613,355 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:03:44 PM Ignore TopGunn Report Abuse Wonder which overpaid Big Oil exec came up with this nitwit "PIPE" Dream!
AnnRKee Veteran Author Pennsylvania Posts:298 Points:20,495 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:02:03 PM Ignore AnnRKee Report Abuse Let's raise the price of gasoline in Maine to that in California for awhile. Then let's poll the "Manineacs" about their feelings about the pipeline.
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,038 Points:1,697,375 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:01:43 PM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse Well, at least it was plotted. Now let's see if what they plotted is actually worth the paper they printed it on.
OaklandInvaders Champion Author San Jose Posts:2,335 Points:565,330 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 6:00:50 PM Ignore OaklandInvaders Report Abuse Heh
BMWer Champion Author Calgary Posts:2,066 Points:1,662,620 Joined:Dec 2003	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 5:56:52 PM Ignore BMWer Report Abuse It's OIL sands...not tar sands!
QuagmireLA Champion Author Louisiana Posts:1,079 Points:160,365 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 5:54:35 PM Ignore QuagmireLA Report Abuse Don't want the new Keystone pipeline. Scared of using old pipelines. If you think I'm going to freeze to death in the dark beside a Sierra Club tree hugger, you're fooilng yourself.
boldrph Champion Author Topeka Posts:18,359 Points:3,448,715 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 5:54:19 PM Ignore boldrph Report Abuse sure hope it doesn't leak!
MizB Champion Author Sacramento Posts:1,910 Points:546,480 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 5:52:28 PM Ignore MizB Report Abuse Dsin44--My sentiments exactly. Their pipelines have already leaked and caused major spill(s) in the upper Midwest--Michigan I believe.
R209 Champion Author California Posts:6,364 Points:238,670 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 5:48:37 PM Ignore R209 Report Abuse It will never get approved...
ican2step Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:1,671 Points:424,700 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 5:39:34 PM Ignore ican2step Report Abuse okay
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GLM4205 Champion Author Toledo Posts:4,042 Points:797,370 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2012 5:37:08 PM Ignore GLM4205 Report Abuse It sounds like they're trying to sneak this pipeline in without going through the normal approval process.