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Autocare Pro News -- One word could sum up the reaction felt by automakers and vehicle enthusiasts alike regarding the dismissal of a lawsuit that would have prohibited the sale of E15 fuel — “disappointing.”

In mid-August, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit dismissed a lawsuit that challenged the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) authority to grant a partial waiver for 15% ethanol (E15) content in gasoline for 2001 and newer model year cars and light trucks.

The court, in a 2-1 decision, found that the groups bringing the lawsuit — trade associations representing manufacturers of cars, boats and power equipment, as well as the petroleum/oil and food industries — lacked the standing to bring such a lawsuit.

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Submitted Sep 05, 2012 By: doeslayersr

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flagtown25 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,177 Points:493,905 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 3:48:50 PM Ignore flagtown25 Report Abuse No
nb52 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:7,790 Points:1,548,800 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 5:39:58 AM Ignore nb52 Report Abuse Idiots!
kgbellman Champion Author Ann Arbor Posts:2,728 Points:734,765 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 11:43:07 PM Ignore kgbellman Report Abuse Will they ever understand
letterchunker Champion Author Texas Posts:2,245 Points:667,675 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 11:20:41 PM Ignore letterchunker Report Abuse I'm just glad I have a station three blocks from my house that sells ethanol free fuel. The fuel cost 2 to 4 cents more than all the other station in my area. Ethanol Free fuel means 20 to 30% higher miles per gallon in my vehicles. It is well worth the price difference. I can only imagine how much E85 would lower my mileage.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,483 Points:665,125 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 11:13:29 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Ban E15 abd the EPA.
defiancegasman Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,080 Points:1,323,260 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 11:11:42 PM Ignore defiancegasman Report Abuse E10 and E15 may not harm your truck and car, but they do harm your small engines like lawn mowers and snowblowers. The main problem is the WATER that the ETHANOL draws out of the air that messes up the carberators in these engines.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,502 Points:1,512,030 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 11:10:13 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse Most tested or most detested? Lotsa people don't like the idea hence the lawsuit.
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regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:2,965 Points:834,655 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 11:04:10 PM Ignore regout Report Abuse Are they sure?
Prodaddy Champion Author Houston Posts:8,390 Points:1,897,135 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 11:03:07 PM Ignore Prodaddy Report Abuse I am not sure about this
slicerette Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,534 Points:542,180 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:59:07 PM Ignore slicerette Report Abuse today's wholesale ethanol price is $2.53 up from $2.00 on June !, 2012
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davenles Champion Author Texas Posts:3,211 Points:720,835 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:53:16 PM Ignore davenles Report Abuse Even less corn to feed to live stock.
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Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,344 Points:2,145,125 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:49:02 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse I think the "nobody wants to take responsibility if E-15 messes up a car" will limit the influx of it to FFV vehicles.
fenster66 Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:3,360 Points:676,040 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:47:50 PM Ignore fenster66 Report Abuse interesting...
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:10,911 Points:2,134,530 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:43:55 PM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse People who think ethanol is bad news, are the bad news.
fowlcan Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,125 Points:686,540 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:43:23 PM Ignore fowlcan Report Abuse I will be glad if this product is banished from marketing. Simply get rid of this option.
farn1958 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:886 Points:183,385 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:40:38 PM Ignore farn1958 Report Abuse Ethanol is bad news.
after10 Veteran Author Hamilton Posts:363 Points:47,985 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:37:44 PM Ignore after10 Report Abuse hmmm
N4PIP All-Star Author Miami Posts:915 Points:421,380 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:35:20 PM Ignore N4PIP Report Abuse We need to keep pushing against ethanol. With the corn shortage, I don't see how we can keep putting in our fuel.
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,708 Points:1,640,120 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:33:46 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse Judges are fools. Why does this surprise you.
saleboss Champion Author Phoenix Posts:3,929 Points:1,177,875 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:33:46 PM Ignore saleboss Report Abuse We need to get rid of all the ethanol blends!
BackwoodsPundit Champion Author Richmond Posts:5,185 Points:1,013,475 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:33:02 PM Ignore BackwoodsPundit Report Abuse Of course they lack standing, because of course the EPA is Our Lord and Master, how dare we, the people affected by their dictates; ever dare think that we have the God given RIGHT, guaranteed by the Constitution, to petition the government for redress of grievances. No, of course we have no standing even though it is guaranteed. Oh Master EPA, and your wise Emperor who rules over you, be benevolent to us, for we are but poor polluters who have no right even to breathe a single breath without your permission. Forgive us that we ever thought to think that this was a Constitutional Republic, when in fact as the court showed, you are "the boss of us".
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clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,588 Points:1,774,820 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 10:23:56 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse E15 destruction coming our way. Brought to you by politicians and regulators. Had enough?
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Wierbe Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,762 Points:1,121,065 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 9:53:29 PM Ignore Wierbe Report Abuse Just be sure the stations include both fuels. Then let the people decide.
SUPRA1987 Sophomore Author Tampa Posts:161 Points:211,645 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2012 9:53:19 PM Ignore SUPRA1987 Report Abuse I drive a 1987 Supra Turbo. It don't like E anything. Just pure high octane fuel.